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Hi all, This Ad popped up on my Facebook as a sponsored Ad. Has anyone been to these type of sessions before? I'm guessing there is a catch as the venue looks quite expensive looking at the clips. Regards, Craig

Hi all, This Ad popped up on my Facebook as a sponsored Ad. Has anyone been to these type of sessions before? I'm guessing there is a catch as the venue looks quite expensive looking at the clips. Regards, Craig

Property education - have you paid for any, has it been worth it, have they delivered, have you made more because of it? I'd be grateful of any comments either specific or general. Thanks.

Just wondering peoples thought is when you disagree between things with your business partner. looking at starting some courses and training which i think will help but business partner wants nothing to do with it. now its quite expensive so i thinking that if i used what is learnt and inplemented it then it would be me doing all the work and they just benefit off it, maybe keep to our original startergy between us in the business and do what i have trained for as a side project for myself? Or does this sound too harsh? Thanks

Hello Hubbers! I am a regular listener to the excellent property podcast but am yet to post to the community so I hope you can help! I am looking for some guidance on my next move along my property journey and would greatly appreciate any thoughts on my small dilemma. so I am 36 from Essex but I live overseas in the Caribbean for work. I have 5 BTL properties in the UK with 2 in Essex and 3 in Manchester that are all rented and yielding nicely. I like many of you out there have an increasing desire to move into property investment full time. I see no better alternative or faster route to financial freedom as long as you are educated, focused and willing to work hard. In order to move into property investment full time, I would want to immerse myself in the education of all the various strategies through courses, seminars, meet-ups and network events based around the UK as Rob and Rob organise themselves. In order to do this, I would have to relocate back to the UK which I don’t mind doing, as I think if done right it would only have to be for between 5-10 years before I was back in a 'time rich' position through passive income to once again leave for sunnier skies But here is the question. My job is not very transferable back to the UK so I would be looking at investing some savings into full-time education initially for the first say 6 months and then hoping to begin my first JV projects and raising finance etc without having an income from employment. So my question to the professional full time investors out there is can this be done or do I need to have an income for the first year or so while I am working on my first few projects for raising finance etc? My other option is to use my savings to start a separate business venture which would hopefully build up a sufficient income stream over a couple of years to enable me to take a step back and begin to divert my attention more on property with the benefit of an income as well. The risk with this is it will take time and it could not work out and I find that I have just bought myself another job!! Not good! I feel like any more time spent on anything other than property is a waste of time because nothing can make as much sense as property as I am sure you will all agree! BUT CAN SOMEONE START AND BECOME A PROFESSIONAL WITH LOTS OF THE RIGHT EDUCATION BUT ‘NO INCOME’?? I hope this all makes sense guys, and I would really really appreciate your feedback if you are in the business and can speak from experience. Thank you in advance!! Best of luck out there and a happy 2018! Regards Alex.

Who wants to join me on a property course (booking includes bring a guest so im looking to split cost!) in Cambridge 28-30 July? I'm about to book a 3 day UK Property Investment course through Legacy. Despite reading on here about most of these course providers trying to push you into further courses; I still think it would be a good starting point for me (a novice) to gain some extra knowledge and be motivated enough to finally take the plunge on something I have been contemplating for far too long, which is investing in property... Going to the free seminar I have already realised that although the presenters are a bit pushy; the actual information provided is very useful and educational. It's rather expensive though at £997, although according to the schedule it is a full packed 9-7 each day and you do get to bring a guest included in the price. I would really like to do it, and just wondered if there is anyone on here interested in being my 'guest' and splitting the training cost? It is this coming weekend though so you've got to be able to be in Cambridge Friday-Sunday. Hope to hear from some of you soon.

Who wants to join me on a property course (booking includes bring a guest so im looking to split cost!) in Cambridge 28-30 July? I'm about to book a 3 day UK Property Investment course through Legacy. Despite reading on here about most of these course providers trying to push you into further courses; I still think it would be a good starting point for me (a novice) to gain some extra knowledge and be motivated enough to finally take the plunge on something I have been contemplating for far too long, which is investing in property... Going to the free seminar I have already realised that although the presenters are a bit pushy; the actual information provided is very useful and educational. It's rather expensive though at £997, although according to the schedule it is a full packed 9-7 each day and you do get to bring a guest included in the price. I would really like to do it, and just wondered if there is anyone on here interested in being my 'guest' and splitting the training cost? It is this coming weekend though so you've got to be able to be in Cambridge Friday-Sunday. Hope to hear from some of you soon.

Hi all, I have been chatting in a few threads on here and some may know, and have expressed an interest in my up-coming 3 day Tigrent Professional Property Investment course. Well, I have just returned from it and would like to share with you all our experience (our, as in myself and my fiancée). Quick intro; I have renovated my own house successfully, in for a profit should I sell, cashflow should I rent, it didn't fall down etc etc. My fiancée owns her own home which cash flows. Both of us want to invest in property for the long term and for income to be able to enjoy life to the full. We have no further investments. I saw the course advertised on Facebook last spring (2015) as the "Robbie Fowler Property Investment Training Course". Naturally I laughed out loud at the thought. And I still cringe at that thought... His name has never been mentioned or alluded to on the course; all marketing. The advert kept appearing, with the same comments of "c***", "coke snorter", "easy with his millions" etc etc. It was those comments that drove me to go to the free 2 hours evening seminar. I am not a hater. What did I have to lose? 2 hours of my evening. Not a lot really. We went along fully expecting the up-sell. The up-sell was the 3 day course for £997 with a "free" tablet full of information and a "free" telephone "consultation" with an investor. (There was of course a 14 day cooling off period during which we did our due diligence checks on the company etc etc) So the main course; Firstly, we had initially opted for dates in Oxford, which got moved back twice, before being hosted in a hotel in.... Reading.... So we opted for a date in Milton Keynes (this weekend gone) instead. Some bum twitching going on as there is a 12 month window in which to take the course. The cynic in me believed this was a tactic employed to reduced the number of attendees by way of their 12 month window lapsing....?? Right, down to it then! Turn up Friday 8.45, tea coffee etc, sign in, friendly meet and greet, usual stuff. Get down to the learning bit. The main speaker was really good. Clearly very passionate and knowledgeable and his subject. A few corny jokes and some audience participation etc. All to be expected! The first morning was proper learning stuff. All very interesting. The afternoon was all about how you would fail in the property game unless you have a mentor to hold your hand. It was not direct, but all in the course material. It was pretty much the same for the next 2 days. Mornings were really good info about strategies, running the numbers, sourcing and so on. There was a lot about having the right mindset, why you want to do it, getting us to self-motivate etc. All a good techniques to sell us the more expensive packages. These started at £12k, and went up to about £34k. Did we buy? Read on. We had plenty of opportunities all the way through the 3 days to talk one on one with the speaker and his "team" of 2. They were all very pleasant and helpful to the point of running numbers for us and advising us where to go from our specific circumstances. What I did learn from the 3 days is that they corroborated everything I had learned myself, for free, on this forum, the podcasts, the one meet up I've been to, and the various books I've read. I should state now that I am in no way working for the Property Hub or endorsing it! It is purely my personal experience. So my fiancée and I find ourselves saying to each other, why spend £24k (the package they recommended for us) when I know I can learn it all for free??? As time went on the one to one conversations became "So what further courses are you signing up to?" the answer to which was "we're not". Essentially their justification, as demonstrated by several (admittedly stunning) case studies, is that your first deal or two, that would be with your personal mentor, would easily cover the cost of the training. I don't doubt it's possible. I don't doubt the success stories of others. Was there a strong confidence from them that we would definitely cover that with such apparent ease? No, we didn't feel so. In addition, they tell you you can get to financial freedom within 2 years if you take their courses. If we didn't, on average it would take us 15 years. I don't know where they get that figure from, but hey?! So we did not sign up. Of about 24 attendees this weekend, we estimated about half signed up for further training courses. I wish them well and I'm sure, having been there this weekend and hearing it all, they will do very well. It is so very dependant on your circumstances! I won't bore you with all my thoughts on that right now! Sadly, however, we did leave this afternoon with a bitter taste. When we were leaving we thanked all the tutors there, as you do when you are polite and courteous people(!), but one tutor just hammered into us that we would fail. We would lose all our money. We didn't know what we were doing. We would seek the wrong advice. The market was going to crash. It was a real shame and the others were very pleasant and accepted we hadn't signed up. And like when you choose not to buy a mobile phone from a salesman, they shake your hand and smile. (And once you've left call you names...). To sum up, 50/50 real learning vs direct/indirect up-selling. Do I regret spending £997? No, and not just to save face. I did learn a lot of tip bits, and some important number crunching ideas. Can I find those on the internet for free? Most likely! Do I see the value in spending £30k+ on further courses? I can, I really can for the right person in the right situation. But it is not for us. On the way home we did agree we felt it was a shame there was not an option to buy further 3 day courses on specific subjects, priced the same as this intro course. (Each package they were selling included a number of 3 day courses, so seems feasible.) Would we have bought one of those? Maybe. But without having the option it's hard to say. The main thing we both feel is very motivated coming out of it and do feel inspired to really make property work for us.

Has anyone any experience with HRD online training please? They have an offer through groupon currently for their property management training course and I'm wondering if it's worth my while. I spent a month working in high end property management in Sloane Square this year and want to get back into the business and more training might help - it's got to be decent though ;-) Thanks! Mike http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/london/the-hrd-group/35165030?p=1&nlp=&CID=UK_CRM_1_0_0_61&a=9&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&sid=1f28366f-3a95-40ce-9d4e-a946a3092d8c&division=london&uh=740b821c-7873-4adc-8ffe-76d6368575fa&date=20140203&sender=rm&s=body&c=deal_title&d=deal-page&utm_campaign=the-hrd-group-35165030 PS link to their site - looks a bit basic which concerns me - never judge a book by it's cover? http://www.hrdonline.co.uk/certificate_in_property_management.html